I just vote that vcdq and all scene ban once and for all PPVRIPs and related groups. Period. Nobody likes them, they rarely get a score above 5 on 10, R5 often follows days or a week or so after, and contemporary TSs are nicer than any PPVRIPs I've seen. It makes you wonder why those groups like Iflix do PPVs. It's just false hope that you're going to enjoy something and you just won't. And I'm watching those things on a 10 inches netbook so my standards are low. Let's face it, it's time to get rid of that garbage once and for all. I mean, I don't want to bash the work people do to release stuff, but as I said a TS v.2 from Imagine for instance will beat this any time of the week. Why does VCDq even track PPV. Why are they part of the scene? Few years ago there wasn't any of that stuff and nobody asked for it, nobody likes it, nobody wants it. Please give it a rest.

Thank you.

edit: it's like tonight. I want to watch "Tree of life", I want to watch "Green Lantern", and I see those PPVRIPS from IFlix and such. It's just now I know better, it's just like a little pointer that some R5 or DVDrip is coming soon, nothing more than a check mark in my mind that I can watch those movies soon... nothing more... but it just annoys me. I'd rather look and see that the R5 is out and go for it. Why waste web bandwidth with such lame garbage?? It's always blocky, choppy... I mean a Cam as better sharpness and image consistency. Please help in making those turds disappear once and for all. Thanks again.

edit2: Well, I wanted to be more precise. Years ago I was watching tvrips i.e. Bell Expressvu and similar for MMA... and it was just great. So those were PPV events and they were well done. So I'm not talking about that. Obviously I'm not talking about tvrips which can be amazingly well done. I'm talking about rips made from streaming garbage I guess which couldn't even look good on a damn smartphone. Again, I wonder how they can make it that bad. I wonder how someone can pay for such an "event". So ok it's P2P. So I beg that vcdq stops tracking them once and for all and save us a click on the home page i.e. filter. Look now, there is already a vote for Transformers 3 and it's 4.5 v. Come on. Let's bury this. Thanks.

edit3: I'm sorry, it's just someone has to say it god damned. The best thing those groups like Iflix and Ember can do for us is to make a website and put there a freakin PPV calendar with the dates, just like a tv guide. Just like when I click on the time in win7. Then people can look at this and say, "sweet, "tree of life" is coming soon so thanks for pointing that out and you can watch your blocky stream shite "rips" and make a f..... internal party watching it to yourselves". Thank you.

So what you're saying is......?

I don't really see the issue... I agree that the overwhelming majority of PPV releases are terrible but while they're "out there" we'll continue to list them, even if only as a warning to people There have been some shocking releases though, including PPV releases that appeared to be cammed from a TV.

As groups are going to continue releasing them we'll keep reporting on them, sorry... And who knows, the quality might improve one day.

Was that the "DukeNukem" group?

My point was that those releases are crappy and should be burnt in the fieriest of fires, and that they deceive expectations as they come way after a TS and just before the R5 and such, whereas in terms of enjoyment they're below cams by such a huge margin. Angle issues and wrong colors is one thing, but having 4:3 and encoding reminiscent of the asf format of yonder is another thing. But I was mostly ranting loll.

The only reason I see those could be released would be to lower the quality of available content and flood it with material which will end up unsatisfying to the end user so that he may just buy it, which isn't a bad thing after all lolll. But then again, this is not aimed at the groups who release such turds. It's just there's no "flush" button to make it go away and it's all over the place...


I hear you. There is no issue per se. Just my little personal annoyance I guess at finding such content listed all over the place. Indeed a warning... I don't believe improvement will come... maybe the ascii art in the nfos. I think all such releases should be nuked by default for "not complying with the barest of minimum of expectations a reasonable person could have - reserved for keychain size devices only for a person with below 10/25 eyesight". But hey, that's just me lolll

they wont even work on them to remove the borders and they have a url watermark of their site @ the end ..load of sites wont list them because of that..fook iflix and the horse they rode in on

I can't actually remember the last time I saw a PPV that didn't look like ass.

It is time to put them out of their misery in my opinion...

They just lower and cheapen the "scene" - at large I mean. VCDq may list them, which I regret ever so dearly, as I have to deselect "PPV" from the source filter, and their releases are undeserving of those 3 mouse clicks...

May I ask that the source filter deselects them by default for new visitors to the site?

Please if there is a God somewhere, may you hear my prayers, that ppvrips be gone forever, even from the cheesiest p2p networks and all listing sites!!!

RIP.

Edit: I think they even cheapen the concept of pay per view and streaming web tv. And they certainly couldn't compete with betamax! We must go back in time and undo whatever damage they might have done. Imagine the newbest unsuspecting of leechers, he might avoid CAMs because he can recognize such a thing in the release name syntax, and he may not be an adept of the sex websites so he won't avoid TSs - so at worst he ends up with washed out colors and some poor cropping, or some missing tiny audio bits... now suppose he d/l a PPVRIP...I pity him and the look on his face when he sits down with a cold beer and chips thinking he can see the eyes of those actors and not some huge blocky pixel instead... then he goes back to Itunes for sure and never comes back. There's more to it than "listing" stuff, there is such a thing as care and decency, and rewarding those who use real filters and scripts, virtualdub artists and such, coupled with tons of CPU power to instill watchability into some uneven source and such... First contact is such an important part of what all this is about. Shame on those who care not.

You can always save a shortcut with your filters enabled you know. Arguably since the line has been removed with the allowance of P2P shit (thanks Wob!) we can't pick and choose which sort of shit we get - and VCDQ would be right to list it all, the onus being on the community to tell everyone else exactly how shit it is.

Remove PPV and what comes next - cam rips?

I hear you. Yet unfortunately the "scene economics" don't work like in a traditional "market" as there is no real revenue involved - "reputation"???... they don't seem to care - hence they can't be put out of business. Someone had pointed out not a single ppv release was ever decent. Yet they're all over the place. You get a nobody, like me, who was time to rant on Saturday night, bitchin' about it... so what? Let's say McD put out a new sandwich, the McTurd... then someone buys it and finds it tastes like shit and tells his friends, or even better, someone gets sick and sues or complains to the FDA... not only the sandwich would be out but the franchise would be out. Ok, maybe not, but I'm just making a point.


I think a cam rip is self-explanatory... I mean, even someone who doesn't know shit from beef can tell when it's properly labeled so he can choose - it's a camcorder in the movie theatre. Yet a PPVrip is mislabeled by default in my opinion. It should be renamed to "PixelatedRip" or "BlockyRip" or "FrameStutteringRip" or "080pRIP" or "ArtifactedRIP" or such... (making suggestions here). Even a revenue-less economy can benefit from predictability, if not from decency.

Edit: I'd personally settle for the turd+nuke icons on each of them...

Revenue isn't the only metric, and I think groups do care about the quality of their material - unless they are deliberately going out the way to be shit. There are two things they care about: being first and being regarded.

Any group "specialising" in PPV rips is only doing it to be the 'leader' of their own field.

Granted, but your cautious "unless" makes this a fragile syllogism in my opinion. I never wanted to imply that anyone would go out of their way to achieve substandardness but I thought so. But following that logic you put forward it seems I'm a 'leader' in the field of rants against ppvrips, the only thing missing being a proper nfo to go with it - maybe I'll make a signature. I was the first, and I hope to be regarded. Isn't time I found myself a gf lolllll. I could also be the first at drawing a movie by hand and releasing it from sketches taken in the movie theater... Food for though...

they dont exist on my pc...never take any notice of them since they 1st came out...couldnt understand why they were so bad quality so investigated and know why they are shit...until i see ppv readnfo and in the nfo it says weve cracked this encryption and these are high quality now then and only then will they interest me...until then ignore them

Etc etc

your in good company

Oh cute, there's that little feuding between the two of you lolll

I should have guessed there's some unknown matrix to those pixels... ah, well, set top boxes are dirty.

But why ignore something when it could have made such good fire wood?

So this means they are all mislabeled and I move to have them re-labeled "UndecryptedPPVRIP".